Henchmen allowed in Sorrows Furnace? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

velvetbunny · Sep 06, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by neoteo

ok , i have a good reason , people tend to solo this game , using the henchs
then go to forums and say they are bored , finish the game too soon etc ...

so i say , remove the hench completely , so people will take longer to own it .

i would put henchs only in pre searing ...

i hope there are no hench in second chapter ... human play or no play ..

go play a non online single player game

Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but i believe most people will agree playing through the game with henchmen is much harder then a GOOD team of real people. If you think Henchmen allow people to cruise through the game, you must get some truely terrible partiest. And said terrible parties/players is why some of us prefer to just use henchmen and have noone to blame for a mistake but ourselves.

neoteo · Sep 06, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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some of us prefer to just use henchmen and have noone to blame for a mistake but ourselves.

BLAME ! , this is it , most people are too proud ... its a game ,,... who cares if they call you a noob , ... just have a fun .. i prefer 1000 times being called a noob ... or playing with a complete noob party .. then having silent stupid henchs , doing nothing ...

velvetbunny · Sep 06, 2005, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by neoteo

BLAME ! , this is it , most people are too proud ... its a game ,,... who cares if they call you a noob , ... just have a fun .. i prefer 1000 times being called a noob ... or playing with a complete noob party .. then having silent stupid henchs , doing nothing ...

Edit: Nevermind, i almost fell for the flame bait until i realized its impossible to argue with someone who considers their way the only way. Enjoy your game your way and I will continue to enjoy the possibilty of using henchmen in Sorrows Furnace.

neoteo · Sep 06, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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i fail to see how some people playing with henchmen has any effect on your game

lets see if i can say this in a way that will not make the mods delete my post again ...

i really would love to see the game free from people that mostly use henchs to evolve in the game .

becose its a online game , i would like it too be for online social people only ...

ITS JUST MY OPINION - DONT KILL ME

dargon · Sep 06, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by Aria

I'm not sure where people got the assumption that Sorrow's Furnace includes a mission, but remember, unless it came straight from Gaile, Alex or another verified ANet employee, anything *outside* of the information given on this page is unverified, and remains merely rumor.

I could have sworn I saw it described as that by Gaile and/or Alex, but a brief search through both the guildwars.com update pages and on here and I can't find any evidence that they did

my bad. I'm not normally one to rumor monger.

Legendary Battousai · Sep 06, 2005, 05:13 AM // 05:13

as to why people think the entrance is in sorrows furnace, is because if you have ever been on a drok rush/run, near the end of Lonars Path, theres a hidden cave which leads to a shrine of Grenth. As of now, it takes you to the underworld, yet people suspect it to be changed. Im not saying that it will be, but that is where the rumor stemed from.

POurab · Sep 06, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Gaile or some other developer said that Sorrow's Furnace will be noth west of Camp Rankor!

Immortal Flame · Sep 06, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Well there could be a few different entrances, probably one in Lornars and one in Tascas. To the topic though, probably for the same reason that the other two "ascended end game" areas UW and FoW does not allow henchs, neither will Sorrows. Just my guess.

Shadowdaemon · Sep 06, 2005, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by POurab

Gaile or some other developer said that Sorrow's Furnace will be noth west of Camp Rankor!

well please put a link to where you saw that and you would be helpful

and there are alot of suspicious looking places where the entrance could be, not only by the grenth statue, but look in that cave in mineral springs, where the glowing orbs are, or the dragon thing in droknars, if you explore the entire maps like i do, you will find lots of stuff like that, so until someone official says for sure where it is, i guess none of us know until tomorrow

Akimb0 · Sep 06, 2005, 12:44 PM // 12:44

so now because the southern shiverpeaks ( Lornars in particular ) is so stupidly hard, that you need to run it, when sorrows furnace comes out, it will be available only to the elite players, thanks Anet! your going to f--- up again!

Takeko Nakano · Sep 06, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by Kobun King

I don't see how being frustrated with retarded PUGs is better than finishing the game too soon with henches. Infact, it's much worse. It's not like this game is long anyways.

I have to agree. For short or fairly simple quests, I don't mind using NPCs. But I always go with human players on missions and long/difficult quests - or just whenever possible.

However NPCs are crucial, because some locations have very few human players visit them. If there were no NPCs, you'd have to solo those quests completely by yourself.

Takeko Nakano · Sep 06, 2005, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai

as to why people think the entrance is in sorrows furnace, is because if you have ever been on a drok rush/run, near the end of Lonars Path, theres a hidden cave which leads to a shrine of Grenth. As of now, it takes you to the underworld, yet people suspect it to be changed. Im not saying that it will be, but that is where the rumor stemed from.

http://www.guildwars.com/products/sorrowsfurnace.html

"The journey through Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace will not be easy, but entering the area will be!"

I don't think they'd be so stupid as to make access to their flagship update as difficult as to make you go on the Lornar's Pass run!

Akimb0 · Sep 06, 2005, 01:14 PM // 13:14

most players havnt seen 80% of the game.

Akimb0 · Sep 06, 2005, 01:15 PM // 13:15

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Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano

http://www.guildwars.com/products/sorrowsfurnace.html

The journey through Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace will not be easy, but entering the area will be!

They also say that its "player skill not time spent playing" that affects your game play experience. which is a straight out lie.

Takeko Nakano · Sep 06, 2005, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by Akimb0

They also say that its "player skill not time spent playing" that affects your game play experience. which is a straight out lie.

You didn't address my last point though. Why would they make access to their flagship update near impossible? If it is off Lornar's Pass, it's at a fairly "easy" stage, not miles off down the run.

sidepocket13 · Sep 06, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Akimb0

so now because the southern shiverpeaks ( Lornars in particular ) is so stupidly hard, that you need to run it, when sorrows furnace comes out, it will be available only to the elite players, thanks Anet! your going to f--- up again!

Relax......... i believe anet has some idea of what they are doing, and what they need to do! its 1 more day, and then we can go at it! but i doubt it will be nearly impossible to get in. as long as they make it for only ascended chars, i will be happy. i dont want to see any lvl 1's or 2's there!

*Edit* *Off-Topic* and how does player skill not outweigh time spent playing? is this another argument for UAS?

i would think that someone who has played 200 hours of pvp will be better then someone who just picked it up, because those 200 hour honed the skills needed.

Crotalus · Sep 06, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by neoteo

i really would love to see the game free from people that mostly use henchs to evolve in the game .

Quoted from the box. check it yourself if you still have it.

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IT'S YOUR ADVENTURE
Jump right into a world of thousands where each mission is created just for you. Live a fast paced adventure without travel time delay, high death penalties, or spawn camping. Join with friends or play solo with a band of skillful henchman.

I like to play with other people during the BWE but as they went on the idiots and griefers showed up. For me it only takes one idiot/griefer to ruin my fun for the evening especially now that i have very little time. To me it isnt even worth my time looking at other players to complete quest or missions regardless if they are griefers/idiots or not.

As i said in my previous post, i still find it quite funny that a henchman aren't allowed into the FOW/UW but are allowed into the GvG/HoH(two places where henchman should never be allowed). I guess that the competitive PvP part of the game isnt too competitive

HAHA!!!

Fye Duron · Sep 06, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Personally, I really hope that they do allow the henchies. I personally don't like too many PUGs. Plus I like to explore every part of the area not just the beaten path that everyone sees.

stumpy · Sep 06, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by dargon

Actually, ShadowStorm, they'll be both in the same place as Sorrows Furnace is a mission and Grenth's Footsteps is the area around the mission. Much like Sanctum Cay and Stingray Strand or Iron Mines of Moldune and Frozen Forest.

can i see the evidence of this? ... every interview i have read on this does not incinuate this to me, and could very well change my idea where it will be. Firstly ... its no blind eye that access can come from port sledge ... i mean approx. 4 days ago a ship just appeared there. Says something, personally I thought these were '2 new exploarable areas' as stated in many interviews. Which leads me to belive they are not directly linked. They may be next to eachother, connected somehow, but not mission/area around mission.

dargon · Sep 06, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Like I said on the last post on page 1, I may have screwed up

Sep 06, 2005, 05:13 AM // 05:13	#26
Legendary Battousai Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CA Guild: [Ryuk] Profession: W/A	as to why people think the entrance is in sorrows furnace, is because if you have ever been on a drok rush/run, near the end of Lonars Path, theres a hidden cave which leads to a shrine of Grenth. As of now, it takes you to the underworld, yet people suspect it to be changed. Im not saying that it will be, but that is where the rumor stemed from.

Sep 06, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#27
POurab Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Allies of Inverness Profession: R/E	Gaile or some other developer said that Sorrow's Furnace will be noth west of Camp Rankor!

Sep 06, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09	#28
Immortal Flame Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: LA, California Guild: Nothing to Lose [NtL]	Well there could be a few different entrances, probably one in Lornars and one in Tascas. To the topic though, probably for the same reason that the other two "ascended end game" areas UW and FoW does not allow henchs, neither will Sorrows. Just my guess.

Sep 06, 2005, 12:44 PM // 12:44	#30
Akimb0 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Rt/N	so now because the southern shiverpeaks ( Lornars in particular ) is so stupidly hard, that you need to run it, when sorrows furnace comes out, it will be available only to the elite players, thanks Anet! your going to f--- up again!

Sep 06, 2005, 01:14 PM // 13:14	#33
Akimb0 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Rt/N	most players havnt seen 80% of the game.

Sep 06, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#38
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	Personally, I really hope that they do allow the henchies. I personally don't like too many PUGs. Plus I like to explore every part of the area not just the beaten path that everyone sees.

Sep 06, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#40
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Like I said on the last post on page 1, I may have screwed up